11/22/2021 – Updated with new title
This is part 2 of a recent conversation I had with Ezra Washington. If you haven’t heard the first one already, you’ll probably want to listen to it first, and you can find it here.
This is a continuation of that episode, and this one starts off with us discussing if Critical Race Theory (CRT) is biblical. I’ll admit, CRT is a complicated idea, and Ezra and I aren’t CRT experts. But it is something that is currently relevant and being discused in the Church community. If you’re curious to hear more about it, check out this video for a scholarly and biblical discussion.
And for the latter half of this episode we chat about Black Lives Matter as well as what it means to be a Black Conservative and the idea of being politically homeless.
As I mentioned last time, if you disagree with anything I say, I’d love to hear from you. And maybe we can have a conversation like this, even if we don’t record it for a podcast. But I would ask that if you disagree with anything Ezra says, I hope you’ll treat him with respect and kindness while appreciating his vulnerability and willingness to share his ideas.
Below are some of the highlights:
- 2:00 – We start off by me asking Ezra who Critical Race Theory holds us back?
- 8:15 – Ezra shares the response from Christians on the left and right to George Floyd.
- 13:00 – I suggest that race shouldn’t play a role in our society but it does, and I believe thinking critically with regards to race is important.
- 26:00 – Ezra shares his thoughts on Black Lives Matter as a tool to silence and shame.
- 34:15 – I emphasize the need to define key terms and ask how to highlight disparities.
- 43:45 – Ezra speaks about political homelessness and his response to Obama’s election.
- 53:45 – I ask Ezra how he feels when people share perspectives of Black Conservatives?
I really do hope you enjoy the episode, and, at the very least, I hope you will see it as proof that difficult conversations like these are possible and we may not convince others of our ideas or opinions but we can still learn from and about others in a way that helps us see them as equals.

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